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Greencb

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I am interested in a Northern Mist specifically for Longbow Class IBO 3d.   I prefer a 68 to 70" Longbow 66 would be my absolute Min. I will be shooting about 38@28. IBO is 27 yard max with Longbow and wood arrows.  

The Classic, Ramer and Superior seem to stand but I have not shot them to understand the trade offs between reverse handle and string follow vs a slight deflex. Forgiving Design vs Speed between the models.  Also, what is the average wait to get a Northern Mist?
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give steve turay a call, great guy to talk about bows with.
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You'd want a Superior or Sprague. At that draw weight you'll want the speed they produce. I shot a Classic in that class 54# @30 1/2". The Superior has always been my "go to" bow in tournaments. The forgiveness of the forward handle on the Sprague with the speed it shoots would probably be my choice now.
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JR,
I shot a Toelke Super D 40@28 last year at Worlds. Would the Northern Mist Bows perform close to the Toelke?
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I have owned and shot multiple copies of each of Steve's bows over the past 5-6 years. Most have been in heavier weights (for me) that I used for hunting. In 2017 I used a 66", 56# Classic and a 62", 51# @ 26" reverse handle Whisper. Last year my hunting longbow was a 64", 55# Ramer and this year it will be a 66", 52# Sprague. All have performed exceptionally well for me.

I am currently shooting a 70", 50# @ 28" Classic for all of the 3D tournaments that I participate in. With my 26 1/2" draw, the bow pulls closer to 46#.  Depending on the local rules being used, I shoot either Longbow or Traditional Class so distances do not exceed 30 yards. I am sure the bow would perform well and shoot pretty flat at IBO distances with your 38# draw weight. 

While everyone is different and "feel" is a largely subjective thing, I prefer the "positive" feel of the straight limb Classic to the "softer" feel of the string follow Shelton and Ramer. I shoot split fingers with a glove and my release can be a bit sticky at times. I have had both a Superior and Baraga, but found I did not shoot either of them as well as the Classic. The new reverse handle Sprague has several inches of backset but it does not have any noticeable hand shock. Again, hand shock  is one of those things that is "in the eyes of the beholder", so your experience may be different than mine. 

With respect to wait times, I know Steve is currently putting in 12 hour days building bows, so it may be a squeeze for you to have it by the start of this year's IBO season.  I would just call him and discuss build time.  There may already be something in the works that he could finish for you.  Or maybe you can talk him into working 14 hour days...  In any case, good luck.  You cannot go wrong with any of the Northern Mist bows you mentioned.

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JR,
I shot a Toelke Super D 40@28 last year at Worlds. Would the Northern Mist Bows perform close to the Toelke?


I had a 55# Super D and my 52# Northern Mist American at the same time. The American was a little faster with the same arrows. But more importantly, the Toelke was rather thumpy and the American much milder mannered. I could never get the Toelke to behave as well as my American or Superior. The Toelke was cut closer to center, something to note if it matters to you. It didn't to me.
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I am interested in a Northern Mist specifically for Longbow Class IBO 3d.   I prefer a 68 to 70" Longbow 66 would be my absolute Min. I will be shooting about 38@28. IBO is 27 yard max with Longbow and wood arrows.  

The Classic, Ramer and Superior seem to stand but I have not shot them to understand the trade offs between reverse handle and string follow vs a slight deflex. Forgiving Design vs Speed between the models.  Also, what is the average wait to get a Northern Mist?


I'd say, "Get 'em all!" LOL Seriously, give Steve a call, great fella who won't steer ya wrong...

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I'm kinda partial to the American myself

a good smooth zippy shooter

My classic might be a micro tad smoother and a bit less zippy  

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Thank you for the replies and information. I just got off the phone with Steve and discussed the use of the bow. He suggested a Ramer for the 3d game. I ordered a 67" 38@28 Osage handle with locator and  Green glass on both sides.  
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At that poundage, I would go with the American.
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IBO Longbow Class is 27 yards max. We discussed trajectory and performance in detail and the Ramer was the suggested model. I will have a chance to shoot heavier versions of most of his bows at Kzoo.  I will get a feel for the sight picture. 
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I'll be there with Steve at Kalamazoo. See you there
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I've shot most if the Northern Mist models, and owned a Shelton, Superior, American, and a Ramer. For absolute forgiveness and accuracy, I'd have to say the Ramer probably takes the lead. May not be the fastest, but it's the easiest to shoot. Id say it's a solid recommendation for a bow to shoot competitively. After all, the arrow just needs to shoot fast enough to stick in foam. A PVC bow would do that. It's up to you to put it in the right place.
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Osage and green glass will look very nice, well done
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Can not wait for my american
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I have shot several of Steve's bows but I only own two of them. Both are 68" Shelton drawing 53# at 28". I draw less so am actually shooting in the 40's poundage range. They are very smooth. I have never bothered to chronograph them. One is bamboo and the other is yew. I think the yew feels a little smoother, but I can't say I notice any difference in the performance of them. The Shelton is a very well mannered bow. As others have suggested, talk to Steve about his bows. He will point you in the right direction.
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NM Shelton (2, both 53#)
Deathwish Longbow (59#)
Archery Traditions Bamboo Longhunter (3, one 56#, one 60# and one 78#)

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