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Carson Haven

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Looking to purchase a new hill style longbow soon, 65-75#.  Leaning towards a Howard Hill, but I am curious to see what bowyer you guys prefer, please explain why your prefer their bows and pictures if you got em.

The big ones I know are 
  • Howard Hill
  • Northern Mist
  • JD Berry
  • Jet
Any others I am missing?

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Sunset Hill would be my choice. I've got one of the older models and couldn't be happier, and Nate tells me that the bows he is making now are even better. You'll need to be prepared to wait but, if Nate is able to fit you in (he has a full time business outside of bow making, and a life to live, so he doesn't produce the volume of some), it will be well worth it.

The only Howard Hill bow I have owned was a Wesley Special, 70# at my draw of 28". Were I unable to obtain a bow from Nate, or needed one right away, I'd not be adverse to a bow from Howard Hill Archery.
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Oh boy, here we go.
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If you are talking new bow at that weight my opinion NM, then Hill

I don't think Jet is doing new business right now

And JD well if he tried to make a bow at that weight his good eye might pop out😁

There are a lot of older models at that weight which come up for sale, a lot of great bows, if you are patient

Did you see that Davd Miller split bamboo, o wow what a bow

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I’m not getting into this one😖
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The BIG Question is How long are you willing to wait for your bow. It is not unusual to wait as much as 8 months to a year and I’ve heard some that waited as much as 4 years. Craig at Howard Hill has the best turn around time. So that’s a question you need to clarify before you order. The first 3 Bowyers you listed are all good ones.
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If you’re looking for bow without glass Miller, if you’re looking for a glass bow sunset hill
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I have 5 bows from HHA and 2 from NM. I really like both and would pick one or the other based mostly on the specs I want for a specific bow. I have received very good  customer service from both. Due to familiarity, I would be naturally inclined to recommend one of these bowyers. A lot of guys talk really well of many other longbow makers, so finding a really nice bow that suits your needs should not be hard. Good luck with your quest.
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Hill Wesley Special (2, both 65#)
Hill Cheetah (2, one 55# and one 40#)
Hill Big 5 (50#)
NM Shelton (2, both 53#)
Deathwish Longbow (59#)
Archery Traditions Bamboo Longhunter (3, one 56#, one 60# and one 78#)

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I heard Dave was retiring, anyone know if he’s still building?

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Northern Mist.

The best Hill bow made is worth the wait.

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I have many Howard Hills and JD Berry’s and one Great Northern. Like them all. Good advise from all the above post.
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James Berry and Steve Turay both make awesome bows. You need at least one of each.
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HHA probably has the shortest wait time. 
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  Nate's not building bows so it would be Craig Ekin or James Berry.
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If you’re looking for bow without glass Miller, if you’re looking for a glass bow sunset hill


I have ordered an Old Tom from David, though it will take a few more months to get, he describes it on his website as:

"Old tom (mountain Lion)and three lams of bamboo, glass faced and backed and with Myrtle wood riser "

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My personal preference is northern Mist. I’ve yet to sight down a Hill style longbow that is more symmetricaly built and totally flawless. Not only are they flawlessly built, they shoot like none other. Perfectly timed limbs with incredible arrow speeds. The american model is the ultimate Hill style. This is just my opinion out of the hundreds I’ve owned over the years. Asking people their bow preferences is not much different than asking them what their favorite pizza parlor is.....a million different answers lol.
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Northern Mist Classic 69” 61@27
Northern Mist American 68” 50@28
Northern Mist American 67” 59@27 (the king)
Northern Mist American 68” 62@28 
Pete George Highlander 66” 59@27 $850 TYD USA 
Pete George Highlander 68” 64@28
Pete George Safari 68” 70@27 $600 tyd USA 
Pete George Boo 68” 57@28 $650—SOLD
Dave Miller Old Tom 68” 53@28 $450 Tyd USA 
Whippenstick BullWhip 66” 57@28
Whippenstick BullWhip 68” 68@28
Frank San Marco 67” 60@27 $850 Tyd USA  
Jet Wolverine 68” 58@28 $300 Tyd USA 
Jet Leopard Deluxe 52@28 $300 Tyd USA 
Vintage Howard Hill (darling) 69” 61@28
Vintage Howard Hill (schulz) 68” 60@27
Jerry Hill Elite Plus 69“ 57@28
Jerry Hill Deluxe Wildcat 68” 60@28 $250 Tyd USA 
Jerry Hill Apache 68” 55@28 $250 Tyd USA 
Martin ML 14 (overhauled by WhippenStick) 68” 60@28 $225 Tyd USA 

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Listen to Newell38, he’s right on the money!
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A few years back I was in Ely, Mn at a popular outfitter store.  Hats with his name on them were twice the price as just the same as hats with no name on them at another store.  He was trying to sell me one of those $25 hats with his advertising.  i told him, "You give me the hat plus $25 and I will wear it on every canoe trip this year."  A good business man understands the benefits of good advertising, he did.  The one thing that I know for sure about longbows is that mine are better than yours.  Personally, I would never recommend a 65 to 75 Hill style bow as someone's first Hill style.  Form and shooting style comes before the benefits of one versus another.  Shooting any Hill style bow like a target bow will make any target bow a better choice.  For your first Hill style bow, I would get a lighter draw bow that is readily available new or used and put a fast flight string of some sort on it that fits your arrow nocks.  Although like I always say, a bow that shoots nice with a B50 string does a lot of other things nice as well, but a modern string can be a great equalizer sometimes.
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If you can shoot that weight, ain't no need to buy a new one. The used market usually let's some real nice heavy bows go cheap. Worth a look in my opinion.
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I prefer Northern Mist but I had a 7 Lakes string follow that shot really well. Should be less wait and cost I believe.
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Echo by two tracks bowyer Charles. S. Deshler, or Team Saggitarius by Rod Harris from england,
personally i am shooting an American by northern mist now...the best ya can get, well worth the long wait of 11 month.

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I got a sunset i would sell 64" 65#@26" grey glass back and belly,new last yr.800tyd
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Ditto  what thumper said , sent you a pm .
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