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topknot

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hey boys

my string for my hh Wesley special broke today [frown] , and so I need to make another string and I was wondering what length Flemish twist string would I need to make for a 68" hh Wesley special, and any tips for a first time string builder.

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Topknot, I started making my own flemish twist strings a few months ago, and think it is really worth learning. See the following link for making a string board - 

http://www.traditionalarcherysociety.com/post/building-a-flemish-string-board-8054826

You don't really need a board, but I think it helps, especially for beginners. The one I made is the one posted by Old Sailor in the link.
Then you will need string material (D97), two colors, string wax, serving material, and a serving tool. There are many u-tube videos on how to do it.

For your bow, measure the exact distance from nock to nock and subtract 3". That's the string length you are shooting for.
You can PM me with any questions, I will be glad to help you.


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took me 3 spools of dacron before I got one right. Now, I can make a very good string in 20 minutes.
Worth the price of learning how if you ask me.

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Good luck makin' strings there.  You have good guys here to help you to your goal.  Well done Vic & OS  [thumb][thumb] .

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Once mastered, you'll surely appreciate the capability of making your own strings as neede...you can also be very creative to individualize your setups! Congrats
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Ryan Sanpei, a bowhunter from Hawaii and a sponsor on TradGang had earlier posted a most excellent you tube video of how he makes a string.  
   Ryan is a most persnickity kinda guy ( I mean that in a VERY good way), you will see how particular he is in the video.  I would have him build me a string in a minute, and know it was as good as a string can get.  He goes thru some very basic moves as well as some "secrets" to making a great string.  I recommend watching it as well as any others you can.

He also has related short subjects like ting on cat whiskers, tying on a nock point and others.  Very worth watching.

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Also.... we were just discussing this on TG as well.  We discussed jigs and someone ( me... I always start trouble, don't I) stated that jigs are not required but help make things pretty.  Someone else mentioned that they made some emergency strings using two nails in a board a measured distance apart, kinda like what you do for an endless string.  Got me thinking..  If you just  take the length you need... say as above, 65", add 9 or 10" to each side ( I do 9 always), that is the length strands you need to make a string.  So make the nails 85" apart and wrap 4-10 times ( whatever number of strands you want), then cut each end.  

You now have two bundles, but they are not staggered.      Separate the strands on each and reassemble, staggering the ends about 1/2" from one another.  Do one end and the other end is the reverse, also staggered.  Voila !  


You got your string ready to twist.    You be...Twisting the night away !

By the way.... I am not NEARLY as picky as Ryan (above) and get the job done well, so can you.

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I checked out the TG thread too and since I needed two I let the sense of inspiration carry me.  My jig had been hanging on the wall for near ten years.  One thing that helped my strings a lot was back twisting as demonstrated by the cute girl in the video that Chad linked.  

My past strings had all been three bundles but doing two was much simpler.  Don't know why I had gotten to making endless for so long.  Twisting one up is so much more enjoyable.


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I'll try it one of these days...lol   Great video btw.  Pretty neat work space.
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It is actually a bit relaxing. Long as it is going well.
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Yea, Chuck, relaxing until the string comes out too short and the air turns blue! 😂
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Yeah Kent,  I had days like that.  I have gotten a lot better actually  Dialing in   I have been going the length of the old string, plus ten more inches on each side ( = 20 extra inches to start) then, begin my twisting for an end at ten inches down the  strands. This has gotten me just a tad longer than I like, although I am always able to twist it to size.  I am gonna build one today where the extra is 9" per side ( = 18 total extra) and start at ten inches from the end.  I think that will do it.  

Also,  Don't know if you have / had a Jet.  Those tips are so tiny I had a hard time keeping a string ON it.  

I now make the bottom loop with 6 colors (two color string / two bundle) twisted before I turn and form the loop.  That is, for yellow / green string, I count six twists of yellow before I form a loop.   I can barely fit the thing on my pinky finger, and in fact, use a short piece of pencil thru it to hold it in my hand while completing that side.  The other side gets just two or three more colors before I make the loop.  On a recurve, with longer loops needed to be able to slide down and wider string nocks to be able to hold those loops, +10 on each side might turn out fine.  For longbows, not as much ( for me......)

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I use string length, plus eight inches, plus one inch for the twists...(basically, string + nine) and, I too, have it pretty well dialed in. Incidentally, I learned to make the flemish twist string by carefully dismantling the string that came with my Ron Maulding Bighorn and working backwards...I thought for awhile I would have to buy more strings if I was ever going to shoot that bow again for all the failed attempts...but, alas, I finally figured it out and haven't bought a string since 1983! LOL
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HHA - Big Five, 93@28"; Schulz American Longbow - Trophy Hunter, 83@28"; HHA - Big Five, 80@28"; Chastain - Wapiti T/D, 77@28"; Bighorn Longbow, 75@28"; Northern Mist Classic, 75@28"; Zebra - Grevy, 74@28"; HHA - Jaguar, 70@28"; HHA - Wesley Special, 70@28"; Kramer - Autumn, 70@28"; Great Plains - Rio Bravo T/D,70@28"; Kramer - Autumn, 74@30";  Kramer - Big Five, 65@28"; Ben Pearson - Hunter, 65@28"; Herter's - Perfection T/D, 64@28"; Bear - Super Kodiak, 60@28"; New Wood - Legacy, 58@28"; Bear - Grizzly, 55@28"

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thanks for all your responses boys
I basically just dove in head first without a jig, and it only took me about 3 strings until I could make a shootable string, its very very relaxing and now I just need to get working on that longbow to go with all the strings I made.
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