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What is considered the optimum amount of twists per inch on a flemish string ? Ive been building my own strings for yrs., but im still working on the perfect recipe.
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Somewhere between a candycane and a twizzler.....just kidding.  To tell you the truch I just eye it up.....if it seems like it will be in danger of unraveling or is overly knotted up I'll redo it, but otherwise...... now I do try to get the individual bundles vey tight in the loops before twisting.  I think this helps some of the stretching.

 

 


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Until proper brace hieght is achieved.
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Valid question. I have read three twists per inch, but, to me that seems too much. I can use string with one turn in one inch and the stretch is minumal and break-in takes less time, but, I do not know if this is too little. I have never had a string I've made turn loose at the ends.

I have a HH bow of older make that came with a string that appears to have about 5 twists in one inch...waaaay too much for my comfort, and could not get the string short enough for brace. I have Craig making me two more or it.

Maybe a string maker or bowyer will jump in.


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I consider 1 twist per inch about optimum.  More are okay to a point but a string can definitely be overtwisted which should be avoided.

A very well made flemish string can be used and shot with far less twists than one per inch but I still like to follow roughly one twist per inch, plus they look really good that way!

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I just eye ball it, some look better with more some look better with less.  It just has to have that "Blended look"  Kind like trying to explain how many twists in the bundle for loops
Just till it looks right, not to tight not to loose. Take some practice, but it comes to you pretty quick.  Like I tell every one blending the bundles it the loop is where it needs to be tight and not coma apart or separate.
The more strings ya make the better ya get.

 

I make a 12 strand string for under #50 and a 14 Strand over #50 a formula that has done me well over the years of building.

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I have heard from a professional string maker that 1/2 turn per inch in FF material is optimum.  I shoot for that in my Ultra Cam skinny strings but usually end up with a few more twists.  
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I try for no more than four. If you twist up a string really tight, it becomes a spring.
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For those that may not know, including me, I am assuming the reference of twists per inch is the number of twists contained within one inch of string - OR - if my string is 66" long it would have 66 twists through out its entire length to achieve 1 twist per inch (Or is that the same thing, said differently??)

I make my own strings and have had some twist as few as 5 times to reach correct brace height. Or up to as many as 40-50 to reach it.

I tend to like the greater twisted strings as they are rounder that way, but have never thought about if one is more correct over the other.

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Thank you silent-service-man! It's the same with my string twisting but I wasn't man enough to pose that question…
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Enough to keep your silencers, providing they are not tied in, from moving up/down the string.
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I don't really think there is a right or wrong answer to this question, but what I do believe is everyone needs a formula for every string they make. What I mean by that is. I know that by cutting my bundles a certain measured length, and starting my twists at a certain length from the end of the bundle. Then making a specific number of twists to form the loop before folding back over Then doing the same thing on the other end every one of my strings will come out exactly the same length with exactly the same size loops,.

I know a lot of people who don't count the number of twists, the length of their pig tails, or the length of the bundles and can't understand why no two strings come out the same. I have a set formula for each string size I make, written down on my string board. When I'm done making the string I just twist it up until it "Looks" right, string the bow, wax, rub with leather and adjust brace height. When the string is fairly well stretched I serve it.
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I like right around 2 twists per inch but won't go less than 1 per inch. Here is the tightest twisted string I ever kept, any more than this and I just start over as the string starts bunching up and going out of round.
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Over time I've migrated towards Bob's methods. I have my recipes written down, I like stretching them in before doing my serving, burnishing, etc. If you want to make a predictably awesome string you have to be predictable in your practices!
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Thom, for reference, how many twists per inch does the pictured one has?
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That's probably right around 3, I just snapped a pic of all my retired-but-might-be-good-for-one-last-day-of-hunting strings with a ruler.
- Top one is 10 strands and twisted too tight so I never used it.
- I think the rest are all 12 strands and I think that one with green is about as perfect as can be.
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That's probably right around 3, I just snapped a pic of all my retired-but-might-be-good-for-one-last-day-of-hunting strings with a ruler.
- Top one is 10 strands and twisted too tight so I never used it.
- I think the rest are all 12 strands and I think that one with green is about as perfect as can be.

Thank you.
From what I can see of the upper one the top one looks 3 twists per inch, the middle one 2 per inch and the bottom one 1 1/2 per inch.
Am I right?

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Thats about how I'd call it.
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What aromakr said!
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